When I initiated the question it wasn't because i wanted to argue. It was because the non commercial use message seemed like a grey area, i was right.<<< No, you were not. >>>We're approaching 100 reply's and still no correct, cut and dry answer.<<< No, you just do not appear to agree with that cut and dry answer. >>>The fact is, however, it is not a cut and dry case (legally or ethically).<<< And that is where the problem looms. Even if we were to accept your argument that it was not "cut and dry" legally (Though it is), it is DEFINITELY cut and dry ethically. If you cannot see that then we are on different wavelengths completely.