bomdropr; I have your original files, but I don't have anywhere to post them... BloodSong also has a tutorial on making a Centaur. And a 'bipedal centaur thingys', wouldn't that be a Satyr? For Satyr theres: Traveler's Monster 1 kit at RDNA (Mike & Vicky): [RunTimeDNA](http://www.runtimedna.com) Hector the Satyr by Quinlor, look in freestuff here or at RDNA (sorry, can't remember his URL) Freak Satyr at DAZ by NOS4RA2 and RawArt