Wow, good to hear comments about Photo-Paint, I actually know nothing about it. Maybe, it will all work out greatly for PSP users, I hope so! PJF - Bryce being "good" again. On a level you're on to something, meaning the 5.5 upgrade will make a large number of exsisting Bryce users happy (not all, but a lot), it will also make Poser/Studio users happy, as they will have a renderer with more/better features. But, it's 6.0 that will help make Bryce "better", in the way you speak of it. Better as far as a leap in progression, etc. Yet...as far as a lead goes, Bryce has held a lead over other landscaping programs all these years, even though it hasn't had but the one (5.0) upgrade. Beacuse it is so unique, is my guess. That and the near obsessive loyalty of its users. I really wish I could find out what issue # it was, but Computer Arts had a top 10 most popular 3D programs list, and Bryce was still in the top 5, even after all these years of neglect by its former owner. And, it because of something PJF (and many others) has mentioned at one time or another, it because of the users that Bryce has truly stayed alive. We love it. AS

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