Well, also remember that I made a point to say there was little postwork on these particular figures. They were also created fairly quickly. If I postworked them, you wouldn't see the difference. Some can argue that you shouldn't have to, but realistically, the photo was taken under certain conditions that are hard to duplicate within a 3D program. If you were to use 3D terrains and flora, you'd stand a better chance. if you are going to try and put them in a photographic situation, then there is work to be done and you use the models as an underpainting. Cris