Incarnadine no apologies needed, I realized that your rant wasn't directed at me. I just felt upon reading your post that yes, generally speaking the "good" name of Corel has be besmirched. Whatever happened between Bryce and Corel should not be taken as indicative of all products Corel has produced. It was an attempt to even the keel and put things in perspective. Of course this does not detract from what I consider the injustice Corel has wittingly or unwittingly brought upon Bryce and its users and the sour taste of it as a consumer.