And if you prefer the old-fashioned "3 orthographic + 1 3D-perspective view", (although each can be selected individually), there's always Invis AC3D. The interface is reasonable, it has most of the low-end functions available, and there are some plug-ins available. It's not free, but it's shareware (my version cost me around $20-ish) Like all 3D modellers, it takes a bit of time to get used to, but after playing with it for JUST 1 YEAR, I've managed to create an almost perfect simalcrum of Drac's "TEH BOX"!! (Slightly more seriously, I use it to create dynamic clothing for P5. I'm not very good at it yet, but I'm improving.. I also use it to create props Bryce, if I can't do it fairly simply using booleans.) Cheers, Diolma