PJF, ahhhhhthanks for the memory refresh. Nevertheless, Corel let the product and its followers down with no changes or upgrades up until now that DAZ has acquired it after all this time for whatever reason. Corels bottom line is not the consumers job to watch especially when to the users that spend their hard earned money on a product that would be left to die after a prolonged period of time whether or not it is deliberate. It manifests itself to the public as having no concern or responsibility for the product, the consumer and poor management. There are many other software companies out there surviving under the same adverse economic conditions that managed to pull themselves together and deliver above board products and provided their users with timely upgrades during that same time period. Im sure all Bryce users will be watchful and spend their money based on what is offered as you say, with suspicion.