HellBorn, Thanks for the ideas and the tutorial. I have a couple problems with Vue 5 and the procedural terrains. When I follow what you have done Vue 5 crashes. I will figure it out. I do have another question, what about a wave curl? I have tried to create one with an elongated torus and a cone and taking the boolean difference. It doesn't look real and to match the terrain (water) around it is equally difficult. Do you have any suggestion?