Dale: Do I need Vickie to use the free characters you are talking about? I mean I really would rather practice with things before investing a lot of money into Poser, I've already invested most of my waking hours and half of my sleeping hours into. I just looked the "free stuff" link here and its seems that 90% of the things mention V3 as a requirement. The little girl in me is coming out. I used to spend hours dressing Barbie.. now I'd love to spend my adult time dressing Poser characters ;) I can rarely get the clothes to work for Posette! I have so much to learn! :) Kelly Ps. Thanks for the info igo, looks like I have a lot of saving up to do! To me $40 bucks is a lot! ;) I recently lost my job (even in this wonderful econmy? amazing huh? - anyway!) so I have tons of time to invest in learning Poser but without Vickie whats the point! sniff sniff ;)