I will check out the link. Thats an awesome idea about dl'ing the Vickie stuff now! I've seen SO much cool stuff at various stuff and I never thought once to grab it while I was there. Homer doh here Does the Vicky 2 stuff work with Vicky 3 and visa versa? I noticed that Vicky 2 is cheaper (like 20 bucks I think) but maybe I should just wait and get Vicky 3. Decisions decisions. Kelly