Alright I hope I will be able to explain this. Ok some of the time I am able to get the make-up to work. It seems what Kelderek suggested about loading a base skin texture worked. But sometimes I'll load one and it'll only put the skin tone on the face. But the make-up still applies it just looks silly. But when I try to apply skin tones from the !mat v3maps drop down from the 'pose' menu, a search window pops up asking me to locate such and such a file. I'll find it, select it but another window pops up saying: File not for do you want to continue looking for the missing file. But the file isn't missing! Could this be some kind of weird thing going on with the jpg's not being bum's? If so why won't it let me convert it to a bum? Alright and about those eyes. Any suggestions on getting those to work? Is there like a base eyeball I have to put down first? Anyway, its nice that I'm actually making some progress, hopefully I'll figure out these remaining few troubles. Thanks yet again to everyone for all your help!! Kelly