I have Vue 4 and still have it installed and still use it on rare occasions(ducks for cover),........one thing I did like about it(ducks again), it is multi-threading, it uses two processors, something I pray that Bryce 6 will address(for those of us fortunate enough to have multi-processor machines). However, in comparison to Bryce I find it annoying in the extreme,.....the inability to change to Open GL view without having to close the app and restart is a major pain. The UI is a jumble, as someone said the handles are frustrating at best,.......etc. I did look at Vue Pro seriously,....until I saw the price(want to convince me, sell it to me as a Bryce user for $99) ! The one major plus of Vue was and is the atmospheres, in my opinion far superior to Bryce(something else that needs to be addressed in Bryce 6), you can get good looking skies in Bryce but it's alot of work, alot of work,......as far as the Bryce treelab,...well, I use the now defunct MECN Tree Factory for most trees(maybe Daz should get in touch with the guys from MECN and see if they can resurrect this app as a plug-in for B6), I much prefer the lighting setup in Bryce(much more flexible), all in all Bryce is just more comfortable for me.

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