So Veritas777 does Vue 5 handle all the material nodes from P5? I use a lot of material combining to optimize figures and memory use. I don't want to go back and reinvent things. Also, I would imagine I have to pose the whole scene in poser then bring it into vue5 and render? I need to crank out scenes fast and make adjustments as I go. Thanks for the heads up. I was seriously thinking of Vue but didn't know if it handled the special shader nodes of P5. Most other packages expect you to export your scene as a big obj then import it and you lose all your materials and have to reconstruct them. For one shots that's probably ok.