Hi Rudolf ! By saying 80% I meant that the effect you get after postworking relatively basic Bryce scenes is much, much better than original renders, which - you must admit it - doesn't look very good. Exactly as you show in your post above. That may work for illustration purpose, but not for animation. I was mislead by such wonderfully postworked pictures and purchased Bryce, thinking I would be able to achieve such great results with Bryce alone. Maybe that's why now I prefer to achieve correct result directly in 3D. If you prefer to stay with Bryce, I wish you that your new employer DAZ3D prepares Bryce 6 as good and powerful as Vue 5 actually is :-)) Finally the most important tool that helps us to create great scenes lies between our ears ;-)) - without it any software would be useless junk. I look forward for your new amazing SF scenes & wish you a lot of imagination & creativity - as usual :-)) Cheers ! Robert PS. By the way, my opinion about Vue/Bryce was the same 2.5 year ago - long time before e-on invite me to beta test their product. You can check it on my website.