You're my ace in the hole. I'll pull you and Expose out when it's needed. :-) And yeah, he apparently doesn't understand. The next step is pictures. :-) But neither do I understand what's parametric software. Hence my question about Ozone and the Max plugin. OTOH, I really don't understand how would they create a horizon spanning landscape in Max without a plugin or something similar. Then, it might be my lack of knowledge about Max. I'll ask a colleague who uses Max tomorrow.

-- erlik