hmmmm, Thought every one here knew my opinion of poser. I apalagize to those artists that spend days/weeks creating an origenal charecter or item for poser. I have done several of my own models, and have tried to do a figure, so I know how difficult this is. Sence I'm sure I would insult some one if I say any more, and the fact that aparently I have hijacked SPZ's thread; soory SPZ, you know how I get. I'm done.