i was being diplomatic on my first post. Like I said, I got my money back. most disappointing model I've ever purchased from DAZ. And even the renders that people say they think look good...I honestly do not see anything good about them...sorry. take a look at kim258 lion..its pitiful...sorry , but it is...and I'm not talking about the Firefly smoothing problem with the whiskers either...the lion itself is terrible. if you look at the long DAZ forum thread, I was showing a couple of images that were not too bad, but as I tried more stuff, the problems became readily apparant. BUT, having said that, if it gets fixed and looks decent, realistic, and better than VIP cats, I may buy it again, but for now, its off my hard drive.

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