How is the P4 now the value option? I just showed it's more expensive for equivalent performance. :p Of course there are inexpensive 939's. It's just that, price for price, the 754's are ahead of the 939's. Particularly around the 3400+ price/performance point. The 939 platform is the future platform, that will run the dual cores, etc. Initially the dual cores will only be in the FX and Opteron models, and since the memory controllers are built into the chip, there will never be a single channel dual core model as far as I know. By the time dual cores are around outside the Opteron and FX lines, in the mainstream market, socket 754 will probably be simply phased out. Socket 939 is, incidentally, not just for FX processors by any means. Certainly the 939 is the socket of the future. But upgrading in this day and age is a notoriously poor value proposition. Motherboards are so cheap, around $100 for a good quality Asus, Abit, etc. with reasonable features, that it seems a bit silly to pay more for less performance now (socket 939), just so you can get a processor socket that you can put faster processors into later. The technology will be better when you finally do intend to upgrade, and the prices lower, so you might as well buy a new chip and board at that time anyway, and make your entry into the 939 platform only when you need to. Unless, of course, you're the type to upgrade every 3 months, in which case it would make more sense to go for the newer socket now. I strongly recommend against that kind of upgrade cycle though, unless you get a new motherboard, case, and memory along with it and simply roll the old hardware into a simplified renderbox. Within a year or two you'll have a great little render farm. - Oshyan