Keith - It doesn't matter if the fractals were composed in UF or in another program as the result is the same. ie: if someone were to make a bunch of fractals with, say, Flarium or Apo but they didn't have UF, they could layer them with PSP and achieve the same effect as with UF. The thing is that all the shapes/parts are fractals made with a "fractal generator" and the "focus" or "subject" is the grouping/layering of fractals that looks like a humminbird. Same with kaleidoscoping a fractal - you map it with UF or with PSP or Photoshop filters and it would look the same. That's one of the all-time great fractal art images you've made there, BTW! Rick