Oh you all are great. Thanks for your help! 3DWizard I just downloaded your bottles in the free stuff section. Thanks thanks thanks! Now finding(creating) a good label for on the bottle. (at least if I don't find or can't create a good champagnebucket. I tried to model one in Bryce, with 2 cilinders and a torus, but it isn't the real thing. Any further help is appreciated. Greetings Danny