Mathman, Something nagged me after I did the transfer. I seemed to remeber that David already has those channels available, so instead of using the copy to V3 first method, you can just inject them into David, so long as you haven't loaded something else in the same channel name. However, for things like HDCeltic, you have to use the Morphmanager method, since no corrsponding channel exists in the David base. Ain't this confusing sometimes? Ah, the joys of injection posing! Hope this helps! Jim