Ynsaen: that's what I meant, procedural materials. Sorry about my reduced 3d vocabulary! I believe these are impossible to reproduce exactly in Poseray, but I played around those PovRay materials and got it to work... it's not the same, but does the effect. Anyway, I dumped that figure and I'm working on another one with no procedural materials. I'd be glad if you could post that pose file, i'm sure it'll be helpful... Stewer: You're right stewer, BUT... that "dirt" you mention has to be applied to a model and scene that works flawlessly without it. I mean, that dirt adds realism and truth to the whole, but the scene's got to work fine before adding it. I'm actually thinking of capturing the grain on the film emulsion of my negs and slides to overlay it onto the rendered images, and see how it works... some selective defocusing would do too... Anyway, I'm experimenting with HDRI lighting at this moment. First renders show a great advance, i got to keep working on it.