Hi all! As a recent Poser to C4d convert, I'll tell ya the goods. C4d renders the same render as Poser would in like 10% of the time. Plus it has area lights, point lights and soft shadows. I went from it taking a week to explore an image concept in Poser to one night in C4D. That is a workflow increase worth a lot of money. Secret, C4D6CE is free. Some got it off the cover of the mag, but you can also take a 20.00 class at eclecticacademy.com, and you get the program free there. From what I understand, it's also a commercial version. (Don't quote me on that). Now the six week class is in newbie level modeling. I went thru the class and in six weeks I can model anything I want. So, now not only is my workflow much faster, I can model the odd prop when I need it. The class doesn't take you up to characters, but it leaves you in a position to go that route if you want to. Plus, the class qualifies you for a academic version of C4D9 for 295$. Most of the modules to boot. As soon as I started C4d, I never looked back. Poser is only a plugin to me now(albiet a great one!.) Now the bonus: C4d is easy, easy to use. If you know Poser interface, you will be very happy with an "almost 0" learning curve. Don't be at all afraid to jump in. You will be very happy you did. I sure was.