Ok I really have to figure out a good way to keep track of all these. I don't really want to join cg, me being a hobbyist and all. And I hate that AS hasn't been able to get threads that will stick to the top. Good luck Rochr, I'll be watching all you guys with great anticipation. This is almost as good as the crystal palace challenge ;) @Drawbridge, have you got a job yet? If not get your butt working on this contest! :-D