Yes please Flyerx! Tutorials for Poseray will be very welcome! Hey, after posting that last pic in the post(rendered in Poser), i went to Poseray to see if it could get any better. I played with the lights for a while following your tips from yesterday (reduce number of lights, convert to area lights, check intensities...) and even tried radiosity... First time (radiosity ON), rendering got stuck in the hair, and just rendered 2% in an hour and half. So I canceled it, and gave it a try with radiosity OFF, but same thing happened... stuck for hours in the hair. I've read some posts with other people having trouble rendering hair in P5, in their cases they were told to use one of Kozaburo's hair to speed up rendering... and that's the type of hair I use! Anything I can do? What do you think of the image in my previous post? Is it fairly realistic to your standards? Thanks!!!