So what are you saying RENAPD? Am I that much in the dark? I find it hard to believe that there are a chosen few that can take a jpg and turn it into a good texture and the VAST majority of us can't. I know I am no artist, but I think that you are wrong there. I am still a little miffed at you saying that I can't do it at all. All I am asking for are a little pointers in Photoshop on how to x-fer over the jpg to the texture tamplate. Can you do it? Tankred