I was talking about color correction and the quality renderer to your point when you were trying to impress mentalray. Are you depressed because you spent thousands out of your credit card on high end softwares? I was not saying anything bad about mentalrays. I was inquiring what was missing with Carrara renderer and mentalrays that was all and you decided to challenge me so you get that negative input. "MentalRay is currently one of the best renderers out there" (scoffs) you probably are wasting too much time dwelling on it. (scoffs) What were the other best renderers? Carrara is good renderer to me and can be used for television or film in my opinion. Carrara has good science rays with caustic, transparent, GI, HRDI etc,...