btw, this is 3700x2700 pixels in all. it's for the CGTalk thingie :D now my problem is to make a planet. the tut is okay, but my problem is that i'm working with huge resolutions here and it's going to be a bastard to make. And that plugin from flamingpear isn't large enough at 100% lol any ideas on planetary photoshop tuts? Drac