Thanks Duane! I was looking mre toward the actual body of a guy and putting that onto the texture map of Zygote's Michael. Of course the guy in the photo is not posing with his arms straight out like the default Michael is in Poser! I guess I could adapt what you are saying to the body (and the face!) and get it to work. Now all I need is to figure out how to map that pubic hair! Tankred