Thanx all. Well, based on some of the stuff ive seen there, i wont win anything... :) CGtalk have always been the forum where the industry people hang out, i guess thats why they have rules like that. I can understand about not allowing pre-made stuff, even though a lot of people arent modelers, but not allowing Bryce/Vue is crazy. And as Coltzero just pointed out, everything must be done after the challenge begins. But who will check...?

Rudolf Herczog
Digital Artist
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