Actually you don't need Poser 5 at all if you have Poser Pro Pack. Pro-Pack has MAX and Lightwave plug-ins that I still use- Poser 5 doesn't have them! I import most of my stuff into Vue 5 anyway, which has superior rendering features to Poser 5. The best Vue 5 feature is HDRI, which delivers very photo-realistic renders using real HDR data- not faked lighting sets that require complicated light sets and huge amounts of rendering time. Yes, the TRUTH is out there- if you go looking for it...