lol@bonni. thanks, though, you pointed something else out to me. "They are on their own Corporate-Fascist agenda to keep Poser users from learning the TRUTH about creative and innovative trends in Poser rendering..." now, wait just one cotton pickin minute there, bud. How does rendering in a program other than poser constitute an "innovative trend in Poser Rendering"? Poser rendering indicates rendering in poser -- have you found some magical means by which to run Vue from inside Poser?

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