NO! There is ONLY one app in the world! - Poser5!! There is only one model! Vicki3 - with Big Tits and a Sword! But seriously though, you (Veritas) do often get jumped on for posting anything about other apps or issues - anything not specifically and uniquely Poser - be it about Vue, about anime, about toon technique, about film, whatever.. Ive seen it many times and got as irritated as HELL by the attitude you get hit with here. So I partly agree with you, Veritas. Ive also seen you get attacked for being a DAZ lover and supporter - just because you happened to post a positive remark about a DAZ product or service - I forget what it was. The attitude is restrictive and gotten more and more so over the years in this forum - a lot of amateur police in here with tin hats on, lol. So keep up your unorthodox style and posts - livens the place up. Fish - been here forever, staying forever