pakled; I got corel draw 9 plus corel wordperfect and several other corel packages all together for $50 with educational license. Only thing I ended up using was corel wordperfect. the rest was total crap. nuski; wow, that's some significantly lower pricetag! too bad it's still $600 above my budget at the moment :P but I can toy with 3dsmax for hours at school so I'll live :P pog; thanx. I've installed it :) I'll have a look at it when I rebooted and my comp is working straight again :P (yay windows!) Cog; The renderer is most certainly the most confusing part of 3DSMAX I've encountered so far. I make like, a cool mat in the mat editor, apply it to my model, and it doesn't look AT ALL the same on the model as it did in the material editor when I render it :|

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