Sorry SnowFox, ;=[ It would appear that my "magic potion" was a bit premature. When I tried to do some bone surgery on the neck ... neck4 and neck5 appeared to "snap" together. One observation though: You have 2 different (external) geometry files and, also, some embedded geometry in the .cr2 file. I don't know but it is possible that there is a conflict in there somewhere. PhilC ??? ... Any thoughts on this matter???. I shall try to investigate further ... later on. cheers, dr geep ;=]

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"

cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

edited 10/5/2019