I'm waiting for vue5 pro as well. I'm also watching the board closely, seeing how people like 5. Just like I did with vue4/pro I see the strengths and weaknesses. By the time I get my copy I have a pretty clear idea where I'll have a problem. I see no problem with this forum. If people find a problem they ask here, people help if they can. Discuss it, contact vue. Where is the need to slam the software? Or people who love it? If the sofeware is too bugged for you, get another. Remember, most of the time it's not the software but the user that's bugged.