agiel picks on me always. I have spent 1000 dollars on eon products and I am not happy with the software or their service. I wished I had used my money for high end 3d app like 3d studio max 7. There are way too many bugs that have existed and been past on to the next version. I expect more but for some reason other vue users don't. One thing I've noticed is pc games are following vue's trend of being released too soon. This makes the consumer sit through patch after patch before being able to play the game all the way through. Ascaron game Sacred is a great example. Sure you could place the blame on me for not knowing how to use or play the game but that is what I would expect from people who work with these companies that produce buggy games and apps. Please don't delete this post agiel. I wish I was the vue moderator because I truly believe in freedom of expression.