hi geocress, I just saw your post. That's good information. If what you say is true, (and I'm sure it is), then it's a big advantage. I mean, I WANT walls to reflect light. You know..... like they're supposed to. I'm fairly expert in poser 4's lighting, (and I used to be a photographer by trade, so I know a bit about light), and it's always driven me crazy that P4 doesn't allow walls to reflect light. The hoops I go through to get semi-decent lights in P4 are beyond belief. Ah well, now that I know there's hope, I'll tweak until I get it right. What's another 2 days on a 3 month project? mac