Oh yes, the chopsticks are definitely at fault here! I'm sure Bloodsong would back me up on that. :) And yeppers, I began with Vue 2. The upgrade overwrote all the 2 files, of course, and added new stuff, but I think I I can remember some of what for sure came with 2, lemme see....(old man here, it takes us awhile to do that thinking thing!) In Atmospheres, these categories are almost (if not totally) identical: Daytime Simple Sunset Realistic Sunset Others Objects/Samples/3D Meshes: most are the same, but there are several new ones. Materials: Basic -- seems identical Rocks -- a few new ones, but most are the same Landscape -- seems identical Liquids -- I think new ones are Glowing Water, Foamy Water, Water Lilies, Shasta Water, Faked Caustics. The rest appear to be the same as in 2. Glasses -- seems identical Metals -- seems identical Special Effects -- a couple new ones, but most are the same. New ones are Cruiser(?), Hidden Base, Starfield, Sparse Starfield, Mossy Glass, Caustic Mask, Compound Eye Vue 3 has several more categories for each type, but to the best of my memory, these listed were all included in 2. I wouldn't be able to even guess what Animated materials might have been in 2, or in Mover applied to v.2. I've never animated, so I've never bothered to even look at those. Hope this is the type of list you're looking for. :) Oh, if you're looking for vegetation...I think it was Fern, Fir Tree, Dead Tree that came with Vue 2 (something more, too, I think), and you can make a list at E-on of all the free veggies, but subtract Anenome because that can only be used in v.3.