Whats scary is @ the end of this year I plan on looking for a new package if Carrara's future isnt decided soon (publicly that is). Oddly enough the 2 apps I am looking at are truespace 5 and .....Ray Dream. Hehehe...Ray Dream looks like it has everything I am missing with Carrara and its outdatedness makes it the right price....seems so wrong to go backwards :) Of course if my plans fall thru for a non linear editor next year I will prob take that money and buy a nice high end modeler...like Miari...mmmmm ploydelicious.....