Ed I'm quite the noobie too, with P5 I've finally been able to create something more complex than a stick figure! And as far as I'm concerned, you've found the best place for help. The people here have been extra kind and patient with me and have help to explain things in such a way that I dont feel too stoopid. ;) Welcome and as they say: If you dont know, ask! I seriously doubt I'll answer anything other than to tell you where the power button is tho! LOL Allen SoaLD@comcast.net