Thanks for the info John. I'm going to pick up one of those mechs right now and try them out! For the longest time I had been looking for some sci-fi mechs but the only ones I could find were Bryce models (here at renderosity marketplace). Now we have the John Malis mechs and your excellent models. I'm going to go ahead and get yours because like I said, I don't want copyright coming back to bite me in the behind, which is a true possibility with John's mechs based on Mech Warrior, as I understand copyright law. The readme in John's mechs says they can be used commercially but like I said, I'm not going to risk it, especially after what happened at Daz with those other models. Not that I'm going to make a commercial render but you never know. Thanks for making such cool models! I love your sci-fi stuff!