"I have to laugh whenever certain people continually tell people to read the manual for answers to their questions. Perhaps those people haven't read the manuals themselves? That's the most charitable response I can give in public. Some of those same people say things like: "Ok, so there is some incorrect information, spelling errors, etc. You should be able to read past those problems and get the real information." Nope." Agreed! Bobbie Can see where Xantor is coming from too. So Poser is bigger in scope than any manual can describe. But I can tell a good set of instructions when I see one. The Poser 5 manual is definately not good. They assume one knows too much + there is no logical sequence. They would be better off producing a CD Rom to accompany the Poser 5 CD that covers the basics upwards in a sort of Dr Geep style tutorial package than a text choked manual that reminds me of a instructions for a Xerox machine.