Rena has a lot of P4 fairies at her site already, and there are more at Thorn Works. There ARE those of us who have been fortunate enough to have the wherewithall to purchase Vickie -- should we be totally excluded so your feelings won't be hurt? I understand that some of you are just starting out in life and have very limited discretionary funds -- I too was in that category for many years (I started in the US Army at the fantastic pay rate of $75.00 (US) per month), but now I am doing well, as I'm sure you will be also later on in life, so chill out and let the rest of us have a little fun, too.... -Jim