Les, if I ever do figure it out more than pretty much what ya'll have set up so far, you can be damned sure I'll tell you -- in particular, since 60% of what I know about lights came from the stuff you and snowsultan have done with them. I hadn't, however, noticed that interesting issue with save thing you noted in post 10. That makes me rather curious. I have an inherent mistrust of Pz3 files from way back in Poser 3, when they just pretty much stopped working for me 100% of the time. Since then, I never save as a pz3, and I don't trust products packaged in that format. I like my library stuff as it is, tyvm, lol. But I'm crazy, so I can't expect sane folks to do similar. If I can ever get some free time and a brain set that allows it, I will definitely look into that myself. I want to create a package set of lighting elements at some time and such info will be rather crucial.

thou and I, my friend, can, in the most flunkey world, make, each of us, one non-flunkey, one hero, if we like: that will be two heroes to begin with. (Carlyle)