Thanks OK, I was wrong above. The lips will also transfer to a Victoria texture by cut-n-paste as well. It is the other separate texture that has no location on Victoria. Victoria/Millie & Michael are definitely more complex as far as setting the textures is concerned. Poser 3 was difficult enough to get started with back before Poser 4 was released , it must be really interesting now. Most of the advanced techniques were introduced here, and by the members. The commercial developers have mostly been gleaning.