Thanks for the info Picnic. I'm new to this so I tend to ask questions before I try something. So....can't Vic.s clothes be altered too or are they just to different to be easy? I haven't tried either yet. I'd like to add to my above message that a lot of stuff like partial and full morphs and textures are also needed for these free characters. Seeing a cool character created from another one and then not having the files to use it really sucks. Once I get better at what I'm doing I'll stick with something everyone can enjoy.