I post at DA once and a while. Haven't dealt with the Big wigs there really, but I do know the accepted attitude there is generally a highbrow, elitist one. As for Daz, I have only had to deal with Customer Service once. But they were helpful and quick to resolve my issue. I dont go to Daz Forums at all, so I can't speak to that. As far as DA.. you have to use your pirated 3dmax/Maya software, or you are an outcast...lol (come on, how do all these 19yo afford 4K $ progs.. yeah right!) -B