lol jaymonjay, That is so true about the blurry pictures. When I said elitist, really I am referring to DA message boards, and many of the so called professional modelers...Thier words not mine. They love to bash on Bryce users. They act like Brycers are to stupid to actually be able to use anything else like 3ds or maya. They truly balk when you say why would I want to?...Especially if I end up acting like my sh** don't stink!!! Whenever I have posted anything there I just end up feeling dirty... Ok that was a little dramatic, but you get the point ;-)