I just re-downloaded P4wwg and the vagina material of the texture is upsidedown relative any textures I've found but this download encluded a starter texture so I should be set. As I right I am downloading Eve3.2 which should also come with a starter texture... meanwhile I looked at the three prior versions of Eve I have in geometries folder map to some textures I did pick up but for some reason was never able to make work. Well, now I'll load up the new P4wwg and Eve3.2 and see how they look. Ang Jaager, thank you for all the work you've done and given away.